Well I always use mens because I'm always scared of some crazy girl freaking out and calling the cops on me !. A mate of mine was out as a girl once ( fancy dress night in pubs ) and he got abuse from a girl just because he was dressed as a girl !

So there are crazy girls out there who will give you abuse and cause a lot of trouble if you use the Ladies.

The down side of using the mens is of course abuse as well. I have been lucky and never had any bad reactions in the Gents. I generally either get funny looks, or sometimes even get told women aren't allowed in here ( I kind of like that reaction ! ). Sometimes I have a great conversation or a guy just having a laugh with me which is great too.

I wish in the UK there were unisex toilets I mean in this day and age why not. I know some countries have unisex loos.

Anyway I'm out Saturday and will face the great loo russian roulette ! lol

Raven
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If I'm in male mode then use the men or occasionally a back alley if the loo is really bad. If I'm in female mode then I use the ladies - occasionally grateful I have heels on and not a long dress!

Im a transexual woman, i only ever use ladies.

When dressed i'm a lady so i use the ladies to hell with what others think but if i'm out in my male form it would be the gents xxx

Dont even get me started on tvs and cds

Well I don't know what to label myself as ! in fact I hate labels I'm me ! :-)

I don't think Tiffany or I labelled ourselves as TVs or CDs. Personally I use the term Tranny. I do not dress the whole time as I am also a husband, father and grandfather (and proud to be male on occasions).

I did note that Raven asked which toilet we used and not whether we stood up or sat down! OK it hard to stand up in the ladies but you know what I mean.

I always use the Ladies, makes me feel more feminine to act as much like the woman inside me. I don't get any problems, Its always the women who prompt conversation with me. Some think I am a woman, others with a keener eye are curious and its good PR for us when they realise after talking to you, that you are in fact NORMAL. x

I normally sit down to pee only because I normally miss the bowl standing up ! lolxxx

I'm pleased that some of you are confident to use the ladies but have you thought of the legal implications if a girl or group of girls took offence and called the police ? xxx

I know what your saying, but Equally a man could call the Police, as your a man dressed as woman, in a mans toilet: - This used to be considered as "Importuning" in the eyes of the Law. I don't know if the Law can still enforce that, but it used to be taken as read that you were soliciting for sex. I have never wanted to risk that, so just in case I stay out of mens loos. A couple of years ago I went to Ascot, my friend could not wait in The Ladies queue, so she went to pee in the Urinal of the Gents. There was uproar, and she nearly got beaten up!. So where do we pee or poo if we are transvestites, its a Dilemma?

to pee or not to pee that is the question

if i am dressed i use the ladies no question there is a chance of an uproar but lets face it there cubicles so whats the harm you cant see unless you are kneeling on the floor looking under the door and tiffany im confused what do you mean dont get you started on TV's or CD.s
as most here are TV's or CD's
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This post was edited by Deleted Member at October 25, 2013 12:32 AM BST

Just to clarify it was Shannon saying about CDs and TVs lol I don't want the backlash

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This post was edited by Deleted Member at October 25, 2013 9:17 AM BST

I also use the ladies if I'm dressed as female. Think your better if with the mods than going into a men's toilet.
Feels right as well xx

I also use the ladies if I'm dressed as female. Think your better if with the odds than going into a men's toilet.
Feels right as well xx

This is a very interesting subject. As someone just starting in their transition, I still haven't even received my diagnosis yet. I fear doing anything in public where people who I know might see me. I know that seems odd, but that's just how I feel about things personally. When I went out publically in England for the week, I never gave myself the opportunity to find out which I would have used.

Once I am properly diagnosed, I will use the Ladies toilets, but not with eager anticipation more like nervousness and trepidation. I fear the looks, the stares, the polite, "sir you're in the wrong toilets" and all that. Perhaps the giggles of young and old.

I obviously use the gents but when I had long hair in the 1970s I was told on more than one occasion that I was in the wrong toilet, lol

I sit to be corrected, but there is no law in the UK that indicates which toilet which gender should use. There is however a safety issue, a trans girl going in the ladies is going into use the ladies, and there is unlikely to be a problem either way. Going into the gents is a much more risky subject. Many more trans have been attacked in the gents than women attacked by trans in the ladies, in fact the latter is probably about zero. As when I go out, I want to be safe, I use the ladies. I've used it in service stations and department stores while genetic women are using them, on occasion with children, and there have not been comments, and the police have not been called. I don't cause a fuss, and neither does anybody else.

People going out for the first time ever, are already a bag of nerves by the mere fact that they are out in public, but even worse is having to go to the toilet and not being able to decide which gender toilet to go to. Some people will never go out just on that fear: - " what If I have to go to the toilet -arrrggh????"

I have been helping people to get out of the closet for years. I recommend the LADIES if your dressed as a female, to first timers, and give them a little piece of advice, which is; -

"Just go in, find a spare cubicle, do what comes naturally, come out wash your hands, check your make up in the mirror if you want to. Smile if someone glances at you, that helps a lot! If a woman attempts to make conversation, answer her politely, and do it with a smile. People find it difficult objecting to someone being nice to them! However what you will find is that most women want to ask you questions, which means they are being friendly, but on their terms. So don't suddenly get overconfident and start chatting them up, as you may end up in trouble. Our behaviour in public either makes it easier for the rest of us, or makes it more difficult. Just being your normal friendly self goes a great way for our image!"

Sorry gone on a bit here, but that's the advice I give first timers, if they are on their own, but usually I go into the toilet with them!

i would like to add to Deborah Taylor's comment. Apart from personal safety there is also a general health and safety issue.
If you are desperate for relief and not going into the ladies while dressed would result in stress, serious discomfort or add to existing or provoke future health-problems you have a legal right to go.
It is for that reason that toilets in other European countries are unisex.

As I dress 24/7 I only use the ladies and always sit and heaven help people who leave the seat up.

And yet in the gay; clubs n pubs I frequent - the Boys always has a bigger mirror, is more spacious and definitely better maintained...ohh and they're always eager to say hello...so maybe like most things in life....it's horses for courses.:)
This post was edited by JoJo Pool at November 25, 2013 8:07 PM GMT

Good point JoJo! Perhaps I can add a bit more to it from my experience out: When I go out to gay pubs and clubs, and go into the ladies toilets, I see a mix of straight women and Lesbians, and me, and guess what men too, gay men! We all get on together, sex isn't on the agenda! Which brings me to the point, sex: - could it be that the very beginning of different toilets for men and women was the idea of the prudish because they thought sex was inevitable. Sex can take place anywhere outside of view, it does not happen to be in a toilet, there are better places!

Gaynor x

Perhaps that wasn't too clear? What I was trying to say, is that, for people who object to us being in female toilets, is a really a fuss about nothing much, and unecessary discrimination!

Gaynor x

I agree with the comments of the girls who use the ladies. When I am dressed I use the ladies but I am dressed like a lady(I don't want to upset other members , but if you are dressed like a caricature of woman people will stare) I personally have never had a problem but I still feel nervous and then after think what was I worrying about and most of the time people are to wrapped up in themselves to notice you xx